Pattern help.

logangray wrote

on Sep 8, 2012 10:06 PM

I've done this pattern so many times and I just can't seem to get it right. Help please !

(notes that pertain  1. Join all rounds 2. Work in back loops only 4. Ch 1 and ch 2 at beg of rounds do not count as stitches)

Rnd 4: ch2, hdc in each sc around, sl st to top of beg ch-2. 

What does that mean ?? It's a hat pattern, out of ruthies crotched accessories. The patterns called Loop the loop. Thanks in advanced. 

onecraftycathy wrote

on Sep 9, 2012 9:23 AM

Note 1:  by joining all rounds with a sl st you will always chain 1 or 2 to go up to the next round. In the pattern you referenced, the chain 1 or 2 at the beginning of the round will NOT be counted as a stitch (although in most patterns this beginning chain IS counted; so remember this for future projects.  Unless stated, this stitch is normally counted).

Note 2:  Work in back loops only.  Watch this YouTube video for an example of how to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG0zOuSLMGE

logangray wrote

on Sep 9, 2012 10:09 AM

Thanks, but that's not the part I'm confused on. I should have been more specific sorry. When it says at the beg of ch 2, which stitch am I joining with ? The first ch 1 ? The ch 2 ? The hole under the ch 2 ? I don understand that part. 

onecraftycathy wrote

on Sep 10, 2012 9:34 AM

Now you've got me over-thinking your question!  It specifically says not to count the chain at the beginning as a stitch.  So, (I'm guessing here) I'd say your join would be in the first stitch, back loop, and not the chain.  The reason I say this is because the instructions then go on to specifically include the beginning chain in Rnd 4 saying to sl st to top of beg ch 2.  That leads me to think that Rnds 1-3 have you skipping over the beginning chain.  Sorry, for the guessing because that doesn't help you at all.  Does the pattern give a stitch count at the end of the rows?  (That would help.)  Someone else can jump in here to give this lady some help!

logangray wrote

on Sep 10, 2012 5:18 PM

Sorry to be such a pain, haha. That's the thing, I feel like I'm over analyzing it as well. It gives the stitch count at the end of all of the rounds but 4, and round 4 is every other round. Here's the entire pattern up until round 8, maybe it'll help:

(the only note in the pattern I left out was 3. which is rows 3-22 alternate sc and hdc. I didn't think that was too important).

ch 4, join with sl st to form ring.

rnd 1: ch 1, 12 sc in ring, sl st to back lp of beg sc - 12 sc

rnd 2: ch 1, 2 sc in each sc - 24 sc

rnd 3: ch 1, 2 sc in first sc, 1 sc in next sc, *2 sc in next sc, 1 sc in next sc, rep from * around - 36 sc

rnd 4: ch 2, hdc in each sc around, sl st to top of beg ch-2.

rnd 5: ch 1, 2 sc in first hdc, sc in next 5 hdc, *2 sc in next hdc, sc in next 5 hdc, rep from * around - 42 sc.

rnd 6: rep rnd 4.

rnd 7: ch 1, 2 sc in first hdc, sc in next 6 hdc, *2 sc in next hdc, sc in next 6 hdc, rep from * around - 48 sc.

rnd 8: Rep rnd 4.

ETC ETC...

It's that 4th round that really messes everything up. Maybe I'm just putting my stitch marker in the wrong place so I count my stitches wrong or something. (When I end the round I put it in before I do the ch1 or ch 2) But I would assume that when you have like, 2 sc in next sc then sc in next 5 sc around it would end evenly. Does that make sense ? Like the last one would be the 5th sc, not like, the 3rd. And then if it does that the count is wrong.... I am so frustrated with this book. If anyone could help that would be amazing.

onecraftycathy wrote

on Sep 11, 2012 9:33 AM

That helps.  Rnd 4 should end with the same number of stitches as the previous row.   I got out my hook and yarn and tried it myself.  However, crocheting in the chain stitch adds an extra stitch and throws off the count for beginning the next row. Unless I'm missing something I'm supposed to intuitively know, it just doesn't work!  I decided to just join the rounds with the goal to end up with the correct number of stitches for each round.  That meant that I joined in the stitch rather than the chain.  I then counted my stitches to make sure I had the correct number and that seemed to work.

logangray wrote

on Sep 11, 2012 1:14 PM

So you're saying skip over the chain 2 and sl st with the first hdc ? If thats the case then they made it way more complicated than it needed to be. They already said skip the ch in the notes. Hmm. Thanks.